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I agree with mikelawson.
In this world if you have any sort of online presence you can expect that >40,000 data points relating to you are held by various companies. Amazon, Google, FB, etc are some of the biggest harvesters of your data but almost all companies/organisations engage in data mining these days.
How to minimise/avoid it? Go completely off grid which for most of us is impossible.

Can’t be sure on this but I heard that one well known on line retailer analyses the phone/device being used to surf their site and adjusts the product prices accordingly?Would be an interesting experiment to conduct.
I noticed when searching for flights on a PC at work once, that the first time I visited a site the price was pretty low, but after multiple visits over a very short time frame the price increased significantly. It was like an algorithm decided that I was going to book the flight regardless of price as I had to.
 
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I noticed when searching for flights on a PC at work once, that the first time I visited a site the price was pretty low, but after multiple visits over a very short time frame the price increased significantly. It was like an algorithm decided that I was going to book the flight regardless of price as I had to.
Either clear your cookies or open up a private window. ( on a mac )
 
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I had a mobile phone conversation with a friend, who told me that her grand daughter, who is a classical pianist, whilst waiting at Rome airport entertained passengers by playing the publicly available grand piano in the concourse.
Later, when I logged on to U tube, the first recommended item was a Russian classical pianist playing the publicly available grand piano at Rome airport. Truly big brother stuff.
Similar things happen to me often

Had loads of lingerie adds and electric toy ones popping up
that time we were arranging going camping with Anne in summer.
 
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In her dazed, injured condition she could hear a voice coming through the speaker system of the car. It turned out to be a member of the BMW team telling her that they were aware of the accident and the state of the car and that they had contacted the emergency services as well as some other instructions.
I would have been worried it was the grim reaper telling me he was collecting me.
 
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I noticed when searching for flights on a PC at work once, that the first time I visited a site the price was pretty low, but after multiple visits over a very short time frame the price increased significantly. It was like an algorithm decided that I was going to book the flight regardless of price as I had to.
I think a particular online retailer called Amaz.... might employ the same algo
 
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I noticed when searching for flights on a PC at work once, that the first time I visited a site the price was pretty low, but after multiple visits over a very short time frame the price increased significantly. It was like an algorithm decided that I was going to book the flight regardless of price as I had to.
The seat price algorithm used by airlines is complex. When I was a working man years ago one of our customers was Galileo who managed seat pricing for BA and others.
 
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The seat price algorithm used by airlines is complex. When I was a working man years ago one of our customers was Galileo who managed seat pricing for BA and others.
Should have clarified it was a company called Galileo not the Astronomer :)
 
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Interesting one last year. We we went to Cornwall (yes when you could), and a note appeared highlighting pictures taken two years previously at exactly the same location on my wife's phone. We live in a world where Sainsburys knows more about you than GCHQ! It's a fact of life and you either accept it or go off grid. That said I would love to see a really good privacy case against Google / Facebook etc. It amazes me that the press is under scrutiny, but social media isn't in the name of free speech. Sorry moderator going off piste.
 
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Interesting one last year. We we went to Cornwall (yes when you could), and a note appeared highlighting pictures taken two years previously at exactly the same location on my wife's phone. We live in a world where Sainsburys knows more about you than GCHQ! It's a fact of life and you either accept it or go off grid. That said I would love to see a really good privacy case against Google / Facebook etc. It amazes me that the press is under scrutiny, but social media isn't in the name of free speech. Sorry moderator going off piste.
And with biometric authentication gathering pace i.e. facial recognition, this is only going in one direction.
Won’t be long before we all have a chip inserted under the skin :)
 
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I couldnt agree more.

Im growing increasingly tired of seeing adverts everywhere I go. I dont want them at all but they're tied to everything I've recently looked at on any given device and they appear everywhere on my phone and in the various apps and other platforms.

As an example of how bad it is, during the setup of Microsoft Windows, its now a thing where you have to chose whether you want adverts tailored to your interests of not but you HAVE to have them one way or another. This didnt used to be the case. I mean cmon really???

Weirdly, I was taking part in a family online zoom quiz where one of the questions related to a famous artist and less than 24 hours later I started getting adverts for this artists work. Scarily, there wasnt an Alexa or Google speaker in sight. Purely what my phone listened too whilst sat next to me.

ooooo sorry... was going off on one then....id better let this go.....

but yes, sorry....its how 'our' info is being used. Its simply not right. We seemed to have succumbed to the gifts by way of apps and online services that are given to us in exchange for all of our info.

Theres a great program on this on Netflix called Social Dilemma. Really interesting and scary too!
What find really annoying is i have to pay to receive adverts and most of the time they come in before the content i want. Broadband suppliers must be laughing all the way to the bank.
 
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