Alex Scott

[ArunAlec]

Reminds me of the year Suzy Perry was flavour of the month and was covering the Olympic Slalom.

She kept referring to the paddlers using oars....

Aaaargh!

 

[two-saabs]

Nothing wrong with mixing things up and having people from outside the normal talent pool. It just depends on whether they have that talent or add something.

The ism/ woke debate is a real one. Sadly we are focusing on Alex Scott's gender/race/sexuality/ class as due to the BBC doing its best to add it's latest find that ticks boxes everywhere, rather than just where that find would work best.

Gardeners World featured a home video of a lady who does great stuff despite being born with stunted arms. It's since featured her again from home and now as a roving presenter. That works. The person in question is a find, a refreshing addition to the diversity mix. I don't expect to see her presenting Mastermind next week or Top Gear the week after.

They also feature a presenter in an electric chair as their disability correspondent/editor/ what ever title they give her. She is starting to crop up everywhere there is a disability angle in the same way that Ade Adepitan does.

Be better to promote more individual faces and see which one works best in a given field.

Gardeners World also has a recentish presenter from a minority group who is more wooden than the plants she talks about. Box ticking doesn't get the best people for the job.

Now THIS is argumentation I can follow, whether I agree or not is a different question, but follow and challenge my own views: yes

 

[Algor]

Nothing wrong with mixing things up and having people from outside the normal talent pool. It just depends on whether they have that talent or add something.

The ism/ woke debate is a real one. Sadly we are focusing on Alex Scott's gender/race/sexuality/ class as due to the BBC doing its best to add it's latest find that ticks boxes everywhere, rather than just where that find would work best.

Gardeners World featured a home video of a lady who does great stuff despite being born with stunted arms. It's since featured her again from home and now as a roving presenter. That works. The person in question is a find, a refreshing addition to the diversity mix. I don't expect to see her presenting Mastermind next week or Top Gear the week after.

They also feature a presenter in an electric chair as their disability correspondent/editor/ what ever title they give her. She is starting to crop up everywhere there is a disability angle in the same way that Ade Adepitan does.

Be better to promote more individual faces and see which one works best in a given field.

Gardeners World also has a recentish presenter from a minority group who is more wooden than the plants she talks about. Box ticking doesn't get the best people for the job.

Why is an ex Olympian presenting an Olympics show box ticking?

 

[Wongo]

That would be a fascinating study to prove one way or the other

Look at the make up in the law, politics, big business, you probably don’t need a study but a quick search will bring all the stats you need.

 

[two-saabs]

Look at the make up in the law, politics, big business, you don’t need a study.

The work is comparing all countries in an objective and fact-based way

 

[two-saabs]

Why is an ex Olympian presenting an Olympics show box ticking?

I think its something about being annoying or from East London or both, I lost the point a few hours ago...

Can we get back to arguing about manual vs electric roof?!

 

[two-saabs]

I think its something about being annoying or from East London or both, I lost the point a few hours ago...

Can we get back to arguing about manual vs electric roof?!

Eureka / I've got it! Ok:

- If you don't like a person
- and the person is annoying
- and that person doesn't look like you
- but might sound like you

... then it's box ticking?

but if they do look like you, then that's not box ticking?

Is there a points system I wasn't aware of? Do you get gain or lose points if you have a Mercedes Marco Polo?

This hurts my head for a Sunday morning.

 

[OGII]

Why is an ex Olympian presenting an Olympics show box ticking?

This is the key bit from my post.

The ism/ woke debate is a real one. Sadly we are focusing on Alex Scott's gender/race/sexuality/ class as due to the BBC doing its best to add it's latest find that ticks boxes everywhere, rather than just where that find would work best.

Just having representated your country at an Olympics doesn't make you the best person for a particular hosting job. Being the current hot talent the Beeb want to put everywhere is also not sufficient. I know nothing about football but I'm pretty sure Alex Scott would make a good Football focus host. It takes proper talent to be able to talk about a range of sports, someone like Claire Balding as an example.

 

[Ozzy Pete]

Just reading through all this and wondering what any of it has to do with a VW California.

 

[Ting Tong]

Just reading through all this and wondering what any of it has to do with a VW California.

That’s why it’s in the general chit chat section which most forums have. It may be heading for the three cocks though.

 

[Algor]

This is the key bit from my post.

The ism/ woke debate is a real one. Sadly we are focusing on Alex Scott's gender/race/sexuality/ class as due to the BBC doing its best to add it's latest find that ticks boxes everywhere, rather than just where that find would work best.

Just having representated your country at an Olympics doesn't make you the best person for a particular hosting job. Being the current hot talent the Beeb want to put everywhere is also not sufficient. I know nothing about football but I'm pretty sure Alex Scott would make a good Football focus host. It takes proper talent to be able to talk about a range of sports, someone like Claire Balding as an example.

I agree that the woke debate is a real one however, I disagree that the BBC are box ticking in the case of Alex Scott, she has been on Sky and the BBC for a number of years now and is an accomplished presenter and commentator. She got the job because she is contracted BBC presenter and an Olympian. To suggest that she only got the job because she is Black or gay is chapter 1 out of the "haters gonna hate" play book I am afraid. I personally don't enjoy Claire Balding's presenting, I find her very dull. Opinions eh.

 

[GrannyJen]

I wonder what Piers Morgan would make of Lord Digby's remarks?

 

[GrannyJen]

and from one of the best narrators in the business ....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1421461607507324929

 

[WelshGas]

So, Who would you like to present the Olympics on the BBC?

 

[GrannyJen]

So, Who would you like to present the Olympics on the BBC?

An olympian of course! Princess Anne?

 

[Algor]

An olympian of course! Princess Anne?

Does she speak the queens English?

 

[Billylou]

67 posts and only 1 person has called out the token comment about Rio. This is the second, shame on you!

 

[andyinluton]

Alex Scott is fine, I just don't want to see her presenting every programme I watch.

For the olympics I would prefer to see previous compititors of that particular sport at least forming part of the team, if only to give us an idiots guide to the rules on some of the more obscure sports & how the scoring works.

 

[two-saabs]

67 posts and only 1 person has called out the token comment about Rio. This is the second, shame on you!

Think there were 2 of us, now we are 3, but your point still stands

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

So is Alex. The BBC need to try to be a bit more woke and get some heterosexuals on.

Not just Heterosexuals

Alloromantic​

A person who identifies as alloromantic experiences romantic attraction to others.

Allosexual​

This is an umbrella term.

A person who identifies as allosexual typically feels sexual attraction toward other people. They may also want to have sex with a partner.

People who identify with this orientation may also identify with another sexuality, such as being gay, lesbian, or bisexual.

Androsexual​

People who consider themselves androsexual feel attraction toward men, males, or perceived masculinity irrespective of whether or not they were assigned male at birth.

Aromantic​

A person who identifies as aromantic may not feel any romantic attraction toward anyone.

People who are aromantic may not want a relationship beyond friendship.

Those who identify with this orientation may also identify with another orientation.

A person’s romantic attraction can differ from their sexual attraction. For example, a person may not be romantically attracted to people but can be sexually attracted to some.

Asexual​

Asexual is an umbrella term that encompasses a broad spectrum of sexual orientations.

According to the LGBTQIA Resource Center, asexuality is a spectrum. Some people may experience no sexual or romantic attraction to anyone, while others may experience varying degrees of sexual or romantic attraction to people.

Those who identify with this orientation do not have to abstain from sex to be asexual.

Some orientations that exist within the asexuality spectrum include:

• Sex-averse: This is when a person is averse to or entirely disinterested in sex and sexual behavior.
• Sex-favorable: This is when a person has positive feelings toward sex in some situations.
• Sex-indifferent: This refers to those who feel neutral about sex and sexual behavior.
• Sex-repulsed: This refers to those who are repulsed by sex and sexual behavior.
• Cupiosexual: If someone identifies as cupiosexual, they do not experience sexual attraction but still desire to engage in sexual behavior or have a sexual relationship.
• Libidoist asexual: This term refers to those who are asexual and experience sexual feelings that they can satisfy with masturbation or self-stimulation.
• Graysexual: Those who are graysexual experience sexual attraction either infrequently or not very intensely.
• Grayromantic: People who identify as grayromantic may experience romantic attraction either rarely or not very strongly.

Learn more about asexuality here.

Autoromantic​

Those who are autoromantic experience a romantic attraction toward themselves.

This does not mean that they do not experience romantic attraction toward others as well.

Autosexual​

Those who identify as autosexual experience a sexual attraction toward themselves.

Similarly to those who are autoromantic, people who are autosexual may also experience sexual attraction to other people.

Bicurious​

People who identify as bicurious are interested in having a sexual or romantic experience with someone of the same gender.

The term indicates that the person experiences some uncertainty as to how they identify romantically or sexually.

Biromantic​

People who identify as biromantic feel romantic, but not necessarily sexual, attraction to more than one gender.

Bisexual​

A person who identifies as bisexual can be any gender.

Bisexuality means that a person feels attraction toward their own gender and other genders or toward anyone regardless of their gender.

Some people may also use the terms bisexual and pansexual at different times to describe their sexual orientation, the LGBTQIA Resource Center note.

Demiromantic​

People who identify as demiromantic usually do not feel romantic attraction to people with whom they do not have a strong emotional bond.

Demisexual​

A person who identifies as demisexual typically only feels sexual attraction toward a person with whom they have already established a strong emotional bond.

Some people who are demisexual may have no interest or only a slight interest in sexual activity.

Learn more about demisexuality here.

Gay​

A person who identifies as gay typically only feels sexual attraction toward people of the same gender.

Socially, people use this term to refer to men who are romantically and sexually attracted to men. However, those in the community use it as an umbrella term.

Gynesexual or gynosexual​

People who identify as gynesexual feel sexual attraction toward women, females, and perceived femininity irrespective of whether or not they were assigned female at birth.

Heteromantic​

Those who are heteromantic may experience romantic attraction, but not necessarily sexual attraction, to those of a different gender.

Heterosexuality​

People who are heterosexual, or “straight,” typically feel sexual and romantic attraction toward people who are of a gender different from their own.

Homoromantic​

Homoromantic refers to people who are romantically attracted to those of a similar gender to their own. They may not be sexually attracted to people of the same gender.

Homosexuality​

Homosexuality is a term describing those who are emotionally and physically attracted to people of the same gender.

However, the LGBTQIA Resource Centerstate that this term is outdated and may have negative connotations due to the past.

Lesbian​

Those who identify as lesbian are usually women who feel sexual and romantic attraction to other women.

Some nonbinary people, who do not identify with the traditional binary sexes (male and female), may also identify as lesbians. This may be because they feel a closer connection to womanhood and are mainly attracted to women.

Monosexual​

Monosexual is an umbrella term encompassing all sexual orientations that feel a romantic or sexual attraction toward only one gender.

Some sexual orientations under this term include heterosexuality, gay, and lesbian.

Multisexual​

Multisexual is a broad term that encompasses all sexual orientations in which people are attracted to more than one gender.

Some sexual orientations under this term include bisexual and omnisexual.

Pansexual and omnisexual​

These sexual orientations refer to people who feel attraction toward people of all genders and sexes.

A typical identifier for those who are pansexual is that gender is not a huge factor in sexual or romantic attraction.

While there is overlap between these two terms and bisexuality and polysexuality, some people may prefer to use one term over another.

Panromantic​

This is a term that refers to those who experience romantic attraction, but not sexual attraction, to someone of any gender or sex.

Polysexual​

People who identify as polysexual feel sexual or romantic attraction toward more than one gender.

Queer​

People of all sexualities under the LGBTQIA+ umbrella may also identify as queer.

They may use the term “queer” to reclaim it, as historically many have used the term as a slur.

Unless a person is a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, it is generally not a good idea to use this term.

Skoliosexual​

People who identify as skoliosexual typically only feel attraction toward people who are nonbinary.

Spectrasexual​

Spectrasexual is a term that describes those who are romantically and sexually attracted to multiple sexes, genders, and gender identities but not all of them.

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

Based on the XX’s received I think my humour may have been misunderstood .
Just for the record, I have absolutely no problem with anybody’s sexuality, race, religion, etc.

 

[AlisonF]

Based on the XX’s received I think my humour may have been misunderstood .
Just for the record, I have absolutely no problem with anybody’s sexuality, race, religion, etc.

If your post has been misunderstood, you may want to delete it. If so, and you can’t, ask the mods to do it for you.

 

[ArunAlec]

Based on the XX’s received I think my humour may have been misunderstood .
Just for the record, I have absolutely no problem with anybody’s sexuality, race, religion, etc.

No “x” from me, found it genuinely informative!

 

[Algor]

Alex Scott is fine, I just don't want to see her presenting every programme I watch.

For the olympics I would prefer to see previous compititors of that particular sport at least forming part of the team, if only to give us an idiots guide to the rules on some of the more obscure sports & how the scoring works.

There are 8 presenters, 18 pundits and no less than 54 commentators coming from pretty much every sport. I think that's quite enough of the licence payers money spent thank you.

 

[GrumpyGranddad]

If your post has been misunderstood, you may want to delete it. If so, and you can’t, ask the mods to do it for you.

Hello @AlisonF Thanks but I’m not inclined to delete it as that would be de-platforming myself.

I’m totally against the de-platforming agenda that seems to have spread from the USA to the UK in recent years. It’s a slippery slope in my opinion.

The book shown is worth a read for anybody who is interested in the topic.