680, wife, me and 2 kids (young adults can sleep in the front seats turned around and laid flat), had no choice because I needed a toilet for wife medical reasons, and I love skiing. Kids in front are a temporary thing though, one can sleep for longer.
I get about 8 weeks skiing in a year (not last season big fat zero and season before only got 2 weeks in before it became unstable)
Because of the astronomical costs of accommodation on ski resorts (especially during the best month of February), costs should be recouped on ski accommodation alone in 5 years, and then there is the summer
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I'm a bit more grown up now (older) and the kids are now working and can make up their own mind as to what they do. So mostly its 2 of us and additional 2 can join us if they want to, but I don't really want that. Love the kids to pieces, but they have to stand on their own feet, 3 out of 4 can drive now.
But traction is a big issue for me .......