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The New Beach "kitchen" and retrofitting

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where about is the gas locker?
I have a T6 Caravelle and curious to see how it’s fitted. My van has twin sliders.
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For twin sliders, these guys have some nice UK made units:

 
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Hi
where about is the gas locker?
I have a T6 Caravelle and curious to see how it’s fitted. My van has twin sliders.
Cheers
Hello Phil,
This thread concerns retro fitting the new mini pop up kitchen as fitted in the T6-1 Beach "Camping" into a T5 or T6 Beach. This new stove is fitted into the trim on the near/side of the rear T6-1 passenger compartment. Since the Caravelle has twin sliders it wouldn't be possible to do a retro fit in your vehicle. The trim panels just wouldn't fit.

The gas locker is located in the base of that N/S trim behind the front passenger seat.
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Thanks for clarifying that, The Beach is a nice van and I take interest in the version with a 3 seater bench seat, lookout for ideas that might be workable in a Caravelle.
 
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Thanks for clarifying that, The Beach is a nice van and I take interest in the version with a 3 seater bench seat, lookout for ideas that might be workable in a Caravelle.
Because the Caravelle employs exactly the same floor rail system and the same three seater rear bench seat as the Beach, there are numerous possibilities available to you. However, I'm not sure if you will have a multiflex board bed extension. If not, one of these may prove a useful addition to your van. However be sure to get the higher split folding version as fitted in the Beach with the three seater Beach. It's designed to provide the right height support in the rear for the bed when the bench is folded down to provide a double bed. It also allows for greater storage flexibility in the boot and because of it's spilt folding element, it increases your seating and leg room options in the passenger compartment. You'll also need the VW Comfort mattress which irons out the undulations in the folded bench to provide a perfectly flat bed. Here are some options you could consider:

1. There are number of companies that specialise is making excellent removable pods with or without a stove, sink etc etc. There appear to be many permutations of this pod theme so you should find something that suits you. You may be aware that I have a seven seater Beach and that personally don't favour the pod approach. My only reason for this is that a pod would reduce the available space in the rear passenger compartment. That said, there are some brilliant professionally made pods that may suit your needs well.

2. There is also the ready made slide out boot kitchen to consider. These units are very slick and I believe they can be ordered to your specification and colour to match your van. These kitchens can be used either extended out under the tailgate or removed from the vehicle and used as a stand alone unit.

3. Or you could try the modular approach with a kitchen stored in the boot on a pull out tray. This is very much the DIY approach but it does enable you to design your own specific storage/kitchen solution to suit your own specific needs. A number of members have designed their own storage systems along these lines, some with and some without a pull out tray. Personally, I think that the pull out storage tray is a real game changer as it makes access to everything simple and easy.

Here's a snap of my system:20200714_105131.jpg
@Amarillo has another interesting alternative but in the end it's down to you to decide what works best for you.?
 
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Thanks so much for your help, I managed to buy a VW Multiflex board, I have to get a little foam top to match it to the rear seat foam. I think Caravelle bench seats are more sculpted and less flat when reclined but not too bad. A local foam supplier can cut one to the correct thickness. I agree with you about the pods taking up space and some loss of flexibility. A full width slide out offers flexibility for us and less money. I’ve bought a Dometic portable fridge and a Cadac two burner stove. If I was buying another, I think a Beach would be for us with the big bed. California’s are off the £ scale at the moment. We love our Van as it’s very plush inside. We haven’t had a night in it yet . We have a hotel booked in South of Croatia in June for 9 nightsso for us it’s a big adventure, camping in the van 4 nights to get there proper rest and maybe longer route back. We’ve been doing package holidays for last 35 years which have been great But the van offers something different. Hopefully we like camping, last time we camped 1996. just looking to live a little free before we move into the departure lounge. Appreciate you sharing your advice

Because the Caravelle employs exactly the same floor rail system and the same three seater rear bench seat as the Beach, there are numerous possibilities available to you. However, I'm not sure if you will have a multiflex board bed extension. If not, one of these may prove a useful addition to your van. However be sure to get the higher split folding version as fitted in the Beach with the three seater Beach. It's designed to provide the right height support in the rear for the bed when the bench is folded down to provide a double bed. It also allows for greater storage flexibility in the boot and because of it's spilt folding element, it increases your seating and leg room options in the passenger compartment. You'll also need the VW Comfort mattress which irons out the undulations in the folded bench to provide a perfectly flat bed. Here are some options you could consider:

1. There are number of companies that specialise is making excellent removable pods with or without a stove, sink etc etc. There appear to be many permutations of this pod theme so you should find something that suits you. You may be aware that I have a seven seater Beach and that personally don't favour the pod approach. My only reason for this is that a pod would reduce the available space in the rear passenger compartment. That said, there are some brilliant professionally made pods that may suit your needs well.

2. There is also the ready made slide out boot kitchen to consider. These units are very slick and I believe they can be ordered to your specification and colour to match your van. These kitchens can be used either extended out under the tailgate or removed from the vehicle and used as a stand alone unit.

3. Or you could try the modular approach with a kitchen stored in the boot on a pull out tray. This is very much the DIY approach but it does enable you to design your own specific storage/kitchen solution to suit your own specific needs. A number of members have designed their own storage systems along these lines, some with and some without a pull out tray. Personally, I think that the pull out storage tray is a real game changer as it makes access to everything simple and easy.

Here's a snap of my system:View attachment 76899
@Amarillo has another interesting alternative but in the end it's down to you to decide what works best for you.?
Sorry forgot to ask what are your thoughts about awnings, have been looking at Vango?
Cheers
 
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Thanks so much for your help, I managed to buy a VW Multiflex board, I have to get a little foam top to match it to the rear seat foam. I think Caravelle bench seats are more sculpted and less flat when reclined but not too bad. A local foam supplier can cut one to the correct thickness. I agree with you about the pods taking up space and some loss of flexibility. A full width slide out offers flexibility for us and less money. I’ve bought a Dometic portable fridge and a Cadac two burner stove. If I was buying another, I think a Beach would be for us with the big bed. California’s are off the £ scale at the moment. We love our Van as it’s very plush inside. We haven’t had a night in it yet . We have a hotel booked in South of Croatia in June for 9 nightsso for us it’s a big adventure, camping in the van 4 nights to get there proper rest and maybe longer route back. We’ve been doing package holidays for last 35 years which have been great But the van offers something different. Hopefully we like camping, last time we camped 1996. just looking to live a little free before we move into the departure lounge. Appreciate you sharing your advice


Sorry forgot to ask what are your thoughts about awnings, have been looking at Vango?
Cheers
I'm not sure about the Caravelle seats being more contoured. You may be right but the bench is basically the same unit in both vehicles.

The VW Comfort mattress isn't just a slab of foam. It's contoured on the underside to mirror the undulations in the folded bench. A simple slab of foam may do the trick but I suspect that if it's not contoured it still won't be that comfortable. Having said that, the VW Comfort matttress provides a perfectly flat surface but can be quite firm for some. So you may need something on top to suit you. I'd suggest that you try sleeping on it before your holiday to ensure that it's comfortable. You may need to make some adjustments.

How do you manage regarding window blinds in a Caravelle?

Btw, we started out wanting a LWB Caravelle with the then bed pack option. Lovely vehicles.

Regarding your awning question, my answer has to be that they are best avoided if at all possible as they are usually bulky, weighty and take up a lot of valuable space. They can be a lot of faff and take a lot of the spontaneity out of Cali camping. However, if you are staying in one location for a few days or more, the extra space they provide can be really useful, especially if you have kids or dogs. We have a Vango Galli low Airbeam awning which we use to entertain in and also when we take our grandkids camping. However, when we take the awning we usually take our trailer which saves space in the van. It's a very well made roomy awning that is quick and easy to erect. It's a bit more of a job to pack it away though especially if it's wet. On those occasions it gets bundled up in a tarp and sorted out at home. So in short, unless you really need one they are best avoided IMO.

Have you thought about a Comfortz awning room? These are quick and easy to deploy and pack away and take up no space at all. In short they are ideal for one night stays and touring. You do need an awning though to attach it to.
 
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@Amarillo has another interesting alternative but in the end it's down to you to decide what works best for you.?

I developed and created my “alternative” in this thread.


My aim was to use every cubic inch of available space in the boot. It has turned out to be a remarkably flexible setup with crates reused to make a kitchen area in the drive away awning.
 

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