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Ski trip with California Beach with kids

kave

kave

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Boras Sweden
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T6 Beach 4Motion
I always liked to try what it is like to winter camp with our California Beach. I researched what the best skiing resort reasonable close to our home is and it seemed Hemsedal in Norway is the best.
I applied for vacation on friday for the kids and we left our home thursday after school. I have since before ordered thule roofbars to the forum spec low feet design. On wednesday I decided to mount the bars and my roofbox. The Thule wingbars is much wider than my old Volvo and BMW roofbars so the Packline mounts didnt work. I ordered some T-track mounts for my roofbox online and hoped for the best.
Mounts arrived 1 hour before we where set to leave, roofbox on, skiis in and off we went. The California is easily one of the best vehciles I have used for long trips, paired with the distance control acc it really means a relaxed journey. It is very easy to go too quick though.
I have researched some campings in Hemsedal before and sent some mails etc but never got any reply. When arriving in Hemsedal we looked quickly at one of the campings but decided that we didnt fit in with all the caravans and all the curtains etc.
Instead we went up to the skii resort center where I have seen there should be a big parking spot.
It was quite deserted at 20:30 in the evening when we arrived. I parked the van in the best direction for sleeping. I decided to try to elevate the roof, but I could not even move it 1cm. I removed the skii boots and tried again, I could lift it with just skiis in, but I dropped down again. I removed skiis and tried again, this time the roof could be held up if the bed where also lifted, but as soon as I dropped it the roof dropped slowly as well. It seemed the weight of roof bars and box paired with -18 C degrees meant the gas struts could not hold up the roof. Being three of us, 6 and 8 years kids and med we decided to sleep downstairs.
I started the heater at full wack and we went to bed. Heater stopped after the programmed 60 minutes while we where asleep. At 4 pm my oldest kid wakes med up saying he is freezing, a quick glance at the Sense Peanut app reveals we had -1 C degrees, ie below freezing point. I fired up the heater again for 60 minutes.
At 7 I woke up to this view:
i-chzc4gF-X3.jpg

i-vMQqfdN-X3.jpg


During the night I never heard the fridge compressor even once, I guess the low temp meant it was not necessary.
I went out to get food and cooker from the boot. Kids happy:
i-q28g7CH-X3.jpg



This is something a hotel cant provide at what makes the Cali so special:
i-pJFgxwD-X3.jpg



Ever wondered what it is like having breakfast in the Beach?
i-7V8dJmD-X2.jpg


Well, time for skiing, the California at its best again, never owned a car of any kind where I can sit in comfort and warmth while helping kids with skii boots:
i-SfZgVsZ-X3.jpg


We had a fantastic day, weather was at its best. Not many people at all in the skii slopes:
i-LsFCvpn-X3.jpg


At 13.00 it was time for lunch, kids playing outside in the snow while dad prepares lunch:
i-cvbqHx9-X3.jpg


If anything the California is a way for us to bee outside more, if staying in a Hotel or cabin we would never have lunch outside:
i-n6Rq7rG-X3.jpg


Friday evening I set the heater to infinity time and power mode 1, it meant we had about 20C degrees through the night, it worked out very well.
Slightly worse weather today but still lunch outside:
i-kPgvS69-X3.jpg


We had fantastic 4 days, it really strengthens the bond between kids and dad, and I realise I have maximum 5 years more with my oldest son. If anyone reads this contemplating getting a California, do it, it can be too late for that purpose.

We filled up disels at the same gas station in Sweden on the way home, the van had taken 10L of diesel per 100km including running the heater almost for 90 hours in a row.
Lessons learned:
  • even though it was about -10 - 18 C degrees we didnt use anything else on the windows than what comes as standard for insulation.
  • using upper bed with Roofbox on a beach is not recommended and should be tried at home first
  • the Brandrup Iso-Top can make you get the bellows between the roof opening when closing the roof and extra care should be taken, no damage to our bellows luckily
  • dont pack too much, we had two bags full of clothes we never used, no need for a wash every day
  • this is very good to have when camping off camping spots https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UB2T1IE/?tag=eliteelect-21
  • Gas stoves work really bad in temperatures below freezing point, I had to warm the little gas canister with my hands to make it work as is it should
 
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We had fantastic 4 days, it really strengthens the bond between kids and dad
What a wonderful post - thank you so much for sharing. I too hope to take my boys on ski camping trips once they are a little older. It is good to hear what a great experience you all had.
 
Seems you had a great skiing trip!
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... We had fantastic 4 days, it really strengthens the bond between kids and dad, and I realise I have maximum 5 years more with my oldest son. If anyone reads this contemplating getting a California, do it, it can be too late for that purpose. ...

Great post and lovely sentiment - thanks for sharing!

I was skiing with the wife & kids in Kungsberget, Sweden last week. We had a fantastic time there - perfect for kids and such a friendly place. I would have loved to go there with the Cali. but, since there is no longer any direct ferry link from UK to Scandinavia, it just didn't make economic sense this time.
 
Great post and lovely sentiment - thanks for sharing!

I was skiing with the wife & kids in Kungsberget, Sweden last week. We had a fantastic time there - perfect for kids and such a friendly place. I would have loved to go there with the Cali. but, since there is no longer any direct ferry link from UK to Scandinavia, it just didn't make economic sense this time.
Thank you.
Yeah, its a pity we dont have that ferry line anymore, it makes it s bigger issue going between our countries.
 
What a wonderful post - thank you so much for sharing. I too hope to take my boys on ski camping trips once they are a little older. It is good to hear what a great experience you all had.
Thank you, I know how you feel, but remember that kids will be older before you even realize it.
Our kids started skiing at 4 years old, its a great way of beeing together outside wintertime.
 
I always liked to try what it is like to winter camp with our California Beach. I researched what the best skiing resort reasonable close to our home is and it seemed Hemsedal in Norway is the best.
Excellent post and photos Kave. Your children obviously had a wonderful time and a great experience.
I've only been skiing twice. Both times a very long while ago when I was in the army, everything went downhill after that.;):Iamsorry
 
I always liked to try what it is like to winter camp with our California Beach. I researched what the best skiing resort reasonable close to our home is and it seemed Hemsedal in Norway is the best.
I applied for vacation on friday for the kids and we left our home thursday after school. I have since before ordered thule roofbars to the forum spec low feet design. On wednesday I decided to mount the bars and my roofbox. The Thule wingbars is much wider than my old Volvo and BMW roofbars so the Packline mounts didnt work. I ordered some T-track mounts for my roofbox online and hoped for the best.
Mounts arrived 1 hour before we where set to leave, roofbox on, skiis in and off we went. The California is easily one of the best vehciles I have used for long trips, paired with the distance control acc it really means a relaxed journey. It is very easy to go too quick though.
I have researched some campings in Hemsedal before and sent some mails etc but never got any reply. When arriving in Hemsedal we looked quickly at one of the campings but decided that we didnt fit in with all the caravans and all the curtains etc.
Instead we went up to the skii resort center where I have seen there should be a big parking spot.
It was quite deserted at 20:30 in the evening when we arrived. I parked the van in the best direction for sleeping. I decided to try to elevate the roof, but I could not even move it 1cm. I removed the skii boots and tried again, I could lift it with just skiis in, but I dropped down again. I removed skiis and tried again, this time the roof could be held up if the bed where also lifted, but as soon as I dropped it the roof dropped slowly as well. It seemed the weight of roof bars and box paired with -18 C degrees meant the gas struts could not hold up the roof. Being three of us, 6 and 8 years kids and med we decided to sleep downstairs.
I started the heater at full wack and we went to bed. Heater stopped after the programmed 60 minutes while we where asleep. At 4 pm my oldest kid wakes med up saying he is freezing, a quick glance at the Sense Peanut app reveals we had -1 C degrees, ie below freezing point. I fired up the heater again for 60 minutes.
At 7 I woke up to this view:
i-chzc4gF-X3.jpg

i-vMQqfdN-X3.jpg


During the night I never heard the fridge compressor even once, I guess the low temp meant it was not necessary.
I went out to get food and cooker from the boot. Kids happy:
i-q28g7CH-X3.jpg



This is something a hotel cant provide at what makes the Cali so special:
i-pJFgxwD-X3.jpg



Ever wondered what it is like having breakfast in the Beach?
i-7V8dJmD-X2.jpg


Well, time for skiing, the California at its best again, never owned a car of any kind where I can sit in comfort and warmth while helping kids with skii boots:
i-SfZgVsZ-X3.jpg


We had a fantastic day, weather was at its best. Not many people at all in the skii slopes:
i-LsFCvpn-X3.jpg


At 13.00 it was time for lunch, kids playing outside in the snow while dad prepares lunch:
i-cvbqHx9-X3.jpg


If anything the California is a way for us to bee outside more, if staying in a Hotel or cabin we would never have lunch outside:
i-n6Rq7rG-X3.jpg


Friday evening I set the heater to infinity time and power mode 1, it meant we had about 20C degrees through the night, it worked out very well.
Slightly worse weather today but still lunch outside:
i-kPgvS69-X3.jpg


We had fantastic 4 days, it really strengthens the bond between kids and dad, and I realise I have maximum 5 years more with my oldest son. If anyone reads this contemplating getting a California, do it, it can be too late for that purpose.

We filled up disels at the same gas station in Sweden on the way home, the van had taken 10L of diesel per 100km including running the heater almost for 90 hours in a row.
Lessons learned:
  • even though it was about -10 - 18 C degrees we didnt use anything else on the windows than what comes as standard for insulation.
  • using upper bed with Roofbox on a beach is not recommended and should be tried at home first
  • the Brandrup Iso-Top can make you get the bellows between the roof opening when closing the roof and extra care should be taken, no damage to our bellows luckily
  • dont pack too much, we had two bags full of clothes we never used, no need for a wash every day
  • this is very good to have when camping off camping spots https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UB2T1IE/?tag=eliteelect-21

Kudos @kave
 
Great! Very brave family! I like it: location, van, kids, the spirit. Wow.


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Great post, what a great experience for you and the kids.
 
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Great post Kave, please tell more about the pullout drawer from the boot.
 
I added a note above about gas stoves, the one I use with small 2€ canisters need their canisters to be above freezing point resulting in very cold hands after a while :)
 
I think those cannisters may be butane which is not so good in the cold as it is made for room-ish temperatures. Propane is best in colder conditions. If it was already propane not much else you can do. :)
 
The gas I use is 60% Butane and 36% Isobutan so that may be why. Thank you, I will try to see if I can find any other.
 
The first two photographs would look great on the wall :D thanks for sharing them.
 
I always liked to try what it is like to winter camp with our California Beach. I researched what the best skiing resort reasonable close to our home is and it seemed Hemsedal in Norway is the best.
I applied for vacation on friday for the kids and we left our home thursday after school. I have since before ordered thule roofbars to the forum spec low feet design. On wednesday I decided to mount the bars and my roofbox. The Thule wingbars is much wider than my old Volvo and BMW roofbars so the Packline mounts didnt work. I ordered some T-track mounts for my roofbox online and hoped for the best.
Mounts arrived 1 hour before we where set to leave, roofbox on, skiis in and off we went. The California is easily one of the best vehciles I have used for long trips, paired with the distance control acc it really means a relaxed journey. It is very easy to go too quick though.
I have researched some campings in Hemsedal before and sent some mails etc but never got any reply. When arriving in Hemsedal we looked quickly at one of the campings but decided that we didnt fit in with all the caravans and all the curtains etc.
Instead we went up to the skii resort center where I have seen there should be a big parking spot.
It was quite deserted at 20:30 in the evening when we arrived. I parked the van in the best direction for sleeping. I decided to try to elevate the roof, but I could not even move it 1cm. I removed the skii boots and tried again, I could lift it with just skiis in, but I dropped down again. I removed skiis and tried again, this time the roof could be held up if the bed where also lifted, but as soon as I dropped it the roof dropped slowly as well. It seemed the weight of roof bars and box paired with -18 C degrees meant the gas struts could not hold up the roof. Being three of us, 6 and 8 years kids and med we decided to sleep downstairs.
I started the heater at full wack and we went to bed. Heater stopped after the programmed 60 minutes while we where asleep. At 4 pm my oldest kid wakes med up saying he is freezing, a quick glance at the Sense Peanut app reveals we had -1 C degrees, ie below freezing point. I fired up the heater again for 60 minutes.
At 7 I woke up to this view:
i-chzc4gF-X3.jpg

i-vMQqfdN-X3.jpg


During the night I never heard the fridge compressor even once, I guess the low temp meant it was not necessary.
I went out to get food and cooker from the boot. Kids happy:
i-q28g7CH-X3.jpg



This is something a hotel cant provide at what makes the Cali so special:
i-pJFgxwD-X3.jpg



Ever wondered what it is like having breakfast in the Beach?
i-7V8dJmD-X2.jpg


Well, time for skiing, the California at its best again, never owned a car of any kind where I can sit in comfort and warmth while helping kids with skii boots:
i-SfZgVsZ-X3.jpg


We had a fantastic day, weather was at its best. Not many people at all in the skii slopes:
i-LsFCvpn-X3.jpg


At 13.00 it was time for lunch, kids playing outside in the snow while dad prepares lunch:
i-cvbqHx9-X3.jpg


If anything the California is a way for us to bee outside more, if staying in a Hotel or cabin we would never have lunch outside:
i-n6Rq7rG-X3.jpg


Friday evening I set the heater to infinity time and power mode 1, it meant we had about 20C degrees through the night, it worked out very well.
Slightly worse weather today but still lunch outside:
i-kPgvS69-X3.jpg


We had fantastic 4 days, it really strengthens the bond between kids and dad, and I realise I have maximum 5 years more with my oldest son. If anyone reads this contemplating getting a California, do it, it can be too late for that purpose.

We filled up disels at the same gas station in Sweden on the way home, the van had taken 10L of diesel per 100km including running the heater almost for 90 hours in a row.
Lessons learned:
  • even though it was about -10 - 18 C degrees we didnt use anything else on the windows than what comes as standard for insulation.
  • using upper bed with Roofbox on a beach is not recommended and should be tried at home first
  • the Brandrup Iso-Top can make you get the bellows between the roof opening when closing the roof and extra care should be taken, no damage to our bellows luckily
  • dont pack too much, we had two bags full of clothes we never used, no need for a wash every day
  • this is very good to have when camping off camping spots https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UB2T1IE/?tag=eliteelect-21
  • Gas stoves work really bad in temperatures below freezing point, I had to warm the little gas canister with my hands to make it work as is it should
Love it
 
Love it great report I don't have a Cali but a T6 weekend/ work van and takeing my two boys 5&4 camping next weekend

IMG_6766.JPG
 
Thank you for sharing, we've been talking about maybe taking our Cali to France in the Easter Hols for a bit of skiing but as we've only just got it wasn't sure if it would be warm enough. We'd need the roof up as there's 4 of us. Seeing your post makes me think its definitely worth giving it a go and also brings back great memories of a long weekend in Hemsedal.
 
Thank you for sharing this post.
Those breakfast pictures look so familiar :)
I have three boys, 4/6/8 years old now, we also went skiing last month with the Cali in the alps, but we only slept in it on the way there. We always set the heater to infinity..
Good to know about the roof struts in cold temperatures. I tested on my T5 Beach that at 15C the struts remain open (slightly lowered) with roof bars and an empty roof box (Thule Motion 900XL) on it, close to 35kgs combined. But it should be emptied..

We put the 3 seater bench in the position where it should be to make up the bed. You can still put up the table for breakfast in that position. Then we remove the drawer below the bench opposing the sliding door, and store 2 pair of of adult skis under through it. No need for roof bars.. still you have to remove as much snow from them as possible of course. Children skis fit in the booth sideways.

Even though we are so much closer to the alps, I also want to visit Hemsedal some day. I just love Scandinavia and it must be great to ski there... and the light on the snow is always magic.
 
Thank you. Well, I always dream about going to the alps for skiing, been there many times in summer on motorbike.
Good idea about the bench, we move it just a few cm because our drawers in the back are 100cm long already, but as you say I should probably just leave the bench where it is during night mode.
I have thought about getting the VW bike rack and mount the skiis to that but I think it is a bit too expensive since I already have a Thule for the hook.
 
Well skis below the bench is definitely a good alternative, especially if you have ski bags to put them in. Quick to pack and leave, and I guess during the skitrip you could leave them below the car, so you only have to remove the snow when leaving for home.
Not sliding the bench is only because the ski bindings are the widest part of the ski and they are near the bench end; a sliding bench there isn't always so easy because of this.
What we've also done is to just put the skis in the middle of the car, in between the front seats next to the handbrake on the way to and from the skiresort. We've travelled with 6 pair of skis like that (and 6 adult passengers, and the middle seats in place) without any problem. As long as you store them outside or elsewhere during the holidays itself so you can still walk around in the beach. Perhaps a ski lock to prevent theft if you store them under the cali.
 
Cali trips with children are invaluable & memories are brewn for the rest of your/their lives.
The only thing I could regret was only discovering this way of travelling 3 years ago. Our children are already 15 & 13, but still they like the taste of adventure that comes naturally with the Cali.
No need to be jealous about the Alps, the snow quality has been/is very poor this year.
Just two weeks ago we experienced the real winter & powder snow in Jokkmokk - no skiing though - but something to look forward to.
 

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