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They do a cover not sure it will help but I bought one .
Perhaps counterintuitive, but these covers work adversely. The gas needs warmth from the surroundings to vaporise. If you insulate the bottle too heavily with a cover, it will cool off inside its cover when used and less and less gas will vaporise. Here speaks experience.
 
You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
That’s fantastic thanks for the share
There is also these Gaslow refillables. They also make a 2.7KG one that is supposed to be a direct replacement for the 907 cylinder - they mention VW T5 campers in their blurb.

They seem like a great idea, but in the UK there aren't many places that will allow you to fill them (or any other make of cylinder for that matter). They are filled with standard Autogas (which is usually Propane or a Propane/Butane mix) at a filling station, but most of these won't allow you to refill a portable cylinder. If you had a filling point on the side of your van, piped to the cylinder you can fill up anywhere.
 
There is also these Gaslow refillables. They also make a 2.7KG one that is supposed to be a direct replacement for the 907 cylinder - they mention VW T5 campers in their blurb..
This looks very good, especially with the contents gauge and the 80% overfill safety gauge! That would mean that in principle you would be allowed in many countries to fill it at an lpg station, although we have read that more and more countries don't allow the filling of separate bottles at station anymore.

There are still others. Still, we would recommend to try if it fits with regulator and all in the Cali gas compartment. We have tried various of the refillable 2.7 l bottles, and none would let us close the lid of the gas compartment. Only the 2.0 l bottle let us do that, and we have thus far found no other 2.0 l bottles than the ALUmini.
 
If you are switching to propane you MUST change the regulator. The one that comes with the Cali is designed to deliver gas at a working pressure of 28mb, as I said in post 12 propane has a working pressure of 37mb if you run the gas at to low a pressure you get will an incorrect gas air mix and end up with incomplete combustion and production of carbon monoxide.
 
Update
Our Gaz issue appeared to be at the valve, removed bottle turn full on in the outside and no flow, until warmed up after an hour in the sun. Put in full bottle and even and some bubble wrap around valve -with an even lower tempature no flow issue the next night.
Message to VW development team - add gaz bottle warm air flow for improved winter camping
 
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If you are switching to propane you MUST change the regulator. The one that comes with the Cali is designed to deliver gas at a working pressure of 28mb, as I said in post 12 propane has a working pressure of 37mb if you run the gas at to low a pressure you get will an incorrect gas air mix and end up with incomplete combustion and production of carbon monoxide.
Ours was delivered with a 33mb regulator, said to be able to serve both butane and propane... A continental thing?
 
We have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.

We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):

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We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.

You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php

Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!

The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment :thumb.
Hi thanks for this old thread. I have a question ...you say you need to fit a new valve...is this easy to find and change ? thanks
 
We have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.

We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):

View attachment 28304

We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.

You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php

Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!

The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment :thumb.
Oupss..another question...do you use the cali Regulator (Propane 907) and fix this to the valve supplied with the ALUmini bottle?
 
@Feggers , here you can get the Alumini with a propane safety valve: https://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
But it should be no issue to get a separate propane valve; the butane safety valve will release at a lower pressure than the propane, basically at potentially a too low pressure, since butane will reach lower pressures than propane at the same temperature.
We simply used our stock regulator.
 
We have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.

We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):

View attachment 28304

We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.

You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php

Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!

The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment :thumb.
Hi Im off to Varanger in April and looking at ordering this bottle for Propane...is the - with gas cylinder valve (incl. Safety valve) all you need to change ? is that correct? Thanks

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Yes, as long as the Gok valve's safety is appropriate for propane. That is what we have.
 
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly... cheers...
 
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